Through the summer I’m reposting throwback episodes, and today I’m resharing an episode from November 2024 with Laura Vander Vos from Trad Recovery. I wanted to re-share this conversation because of the SSPX being in the news this past month. Laura and I talked about the real harm that so many people have experienced within Catholic Traditionalism and the work that TradRecovery is doing to help.
I’m excited to share it with you again!
Also, I just opened up registration for my next round of spiritual abuse workshops. This is an online workshop focused on recognizing, preventing, and responding to spiritual abuse in the Catholic Church.
This workshop is for:
Individuals trying to better understand their experiences of spiritual abuse in the Church
Clergy and lay leaders interested in safeguarding their communities from spiritual abuse and abuse of conscience
Therapists or spiritual directors working with clients who have been spiritually abused
This workshop will help you:
Recognize and prevent spiritual abuse and abuse of conscience in the Church
Know the symptoms of spiritual abuse, religious trauma, and moral injury
Better understand and respond to abusive systems in the Church
This is a live online workshop that meets in a small group over the course of five weeks, beginning in September.
Visit for here more details: https://www.catholicthirdspace.com/p/spiritual-abuse-workshop-34d
Laura is a homeschooled wife and mother, who hails from Montana. She has a background in sacred music and is a self-published author. Laura operates the MissHappyCatholic youtube channel and co-founded the TradRecovery apostolate in 2023.
LINKS:
TradRecovery
https://www.tradrecovery.com
Spiritual Abuse Workshop
https://www.catholicthirdspace.com/p/spiritual-abuse-workshop-34d
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ABOUT THE HOST: Paul Fahey is currently a professional counselor, retreat leader, and the host of the Third Space podcast. He provides counseling for those who have been spiritually abused and creates resources for Church leaders to better safeguard their communities against all forms of abuse. He previously worked for eight years as the Director of Religious Education at a Catholic parish. Paul Fahey lives in Michigan with his wife, Kristina, and their five kids.










